Internet Stalker’s Bitterness And Vindictive Self-absorption Rots His Soul: The Sad Little Non-World Of Peter Lumpkins

Doktor James White on Fudging His Teaching Assignments by Peter Lumpkins – sbc tomorrow.

James White noted in his Dividing Line today the depths to which Peter Lumpkins will go in his vendetta. Peter’s lies have over-taken any rational sense he had. As seen in this post, Peter will bed down with any suitor to get back at Dr. White. One begins to wonder. If Peter is under the oversight of any church leadership, why haven’t they reigned him in and demanded his repentance for his continued bitter sinfulness? Two possibilities: he rejects any accountability, or, ministers of the Gospel want nothing to do with him.

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14 thoughts on “Internet Stalker’s Bitterness And Vindictive Self-absorption Rots His Soul: The Sad Little Non-World Of Peter Lumpkins

  1. I would call the current lovefest between Lumpy and Dave Armstrong a meeting of the minds. But it should more accurately be called a meeting of the half-wits.

  2. I cannot even begin to imagine what Lumpy is thinking. The alliances of convenience he is making befuddles the mind.

    I have to appreciate Dr. White’s willingness to speak to him on the Dividing Line. I don’t think it will accomplish much, but it would be worth the listen to here Peter try to defend his actions.

  3. I don’t think Lumpy has the guts to ever call the Dividing Line, and be forced to defend his statesments.

    Lumpy seems so interested in exploring James White’s background, but has anyone noticed that information about HIS background appears to be very scarce? I’ve looked in vain on his website for the names of the schools HE attended, but it can’t be found there. Nor can it be found on his book (I bought a used copy). He lists several degrees, but omtis WHERE they came from. Wouldn’t be a hoot if after all his diatribes against James White, that Lumpy himself attended an UNACCREDITTED university!!

  4. I saw his academic history listed somewhere. It might be worth a look on his site in one of his posts.

  5. I’d like to find that, because I’m curious now.

    In the “About Peter” link on his website, he doesn’t give any of his academic history.

    In a website he has to promote his book, he claims to have these degrees, but doesn’t say where they are from. It’s also what’s on the back of the book.

    ================

    Peter Lumpkins is a Southern Baptist minister living in West Georgia. For over twenty years Peter served as pastor in Kentucky, Tennessee and Georgia. Presently, he serves as editor of a developing small group Bible study series. Peter has degrees in Religion & Philosophy (B.A.), Theology (M.Div.), and Expository Preaching (D.Min.). He also completed graduate work in Bioethics. Alcohol Today: Abstinence in an Age of Indulgence is Peter’s first book.

  6. This isn’t surprising. I’m having a go-round with him here at

    http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2011/03/seminary-official-identified-who-cut-ties-with-james-white-by-peter-lumpkins.html.

    He wanted me to remove James White’s reference to his teaching at Golden Gate on reformedcast.com podcast. When I wouldn’t, he went on the attack. He melted down pretty good as you can see from the comment string.

    My schooling and work is fully revealed here at http://www.alwaysreforming.org/p/bio.html. He hides his, apparently. I posted on it here:

    http://www.alwaysreforming.org/2011/03/answering-one-peter-lumpkins.html

  7. Scott,

    Nice try. First, let me be very specific: if you’re asking me to tell you the specific person, I suggest you stop wasting your time. I most certainly will *not* do so. Now if you want an alternative, I can suggest you talk to your buddy.

    Second, if you or anyone else think I was serious about TF, I cannot even fathom it. What some guys do for laughs must be really creepy.

    Now let me spell it out: the stark irony of James White demanding I divulge the person who told me something makes as much sense as for me to ask James White who TurrentinFan is. White’s minions hee-haw like donkeys in a barnyard when someone wants to know who TF is since he (or she) has made a blog-living out of “revealing” things about others, and he (or she) does it completely anonymously.

    Now before you (or anyone else) respond, listen carefully: I don’t care whether or not you “got” the irony. And I’m not going to argue with you what irony is, whether humor is valid, etc etc etc. I don’t care, Scott. I “got” it, and that’s why I posted it. It’s really that simple.

    Third, like I told you in my follow-up email, the decision is yours. I’m under the impression that reasonable people have enough info to judge whether White actually teaches for GG or not. So, you can do as you wish. Nor am I asking for an apology. That’s your business.

    Fourth, well, you did more than “discuss” this with Doktor White, Scott. You forwarded an email to him, an email marked private. And, whether or not you saw the privacy statement, it is there. Now, of course, it doesn’t surprise me that you see no problem in this. For neither does White. Obviously I didn’t know you were buds, or I would have anticipated your sharing it.

    With that, I am…
    Peter

    This is insanity. If the video you posted is the evidence, it was no evidence. What cracks me up is that these jokers actually think that the convention floor is the place for their political witch-hunt. Tim Rogers? Oh, brother, the mad-clowns of the Arminian Baptist Identy crowd should be locked away.

    Peter won’t give a specific person because there isn’t one. The context of the no current contract claims are not current. And it doesn’t really matter, for JW did teach there as the President admitted. Which is really the question. Is he an adjunct professor? Yes, when contracted. It is a rediculous reductionism to say that changes with the beginning of every new contract and then ends with it. You can see the self-absorption oozing out. Peter doesn’t care whether or not there is any irony, irony is what he imagines it to be. What an egotistical slob! It is as if he and his minions are sitting around drinking swill and laughing at each others gaseous releases, as if it was funny. Cute for teens, but the only reason Lumpy’s boys are laughing is that they are drunk, and can’t tell the difference between humor and vile talk and action. Everyone else sees them for what are. There isn’t any commonality between JW demanding an answer and Peter asking who TF is. Peter made an accusation, JW hasn’t. TF isn’t a material figure. The official who supposedly informed Peter is. Reasonable people think the JW teaches as an adjunct professor. And that he may or may not be under contract currently. Peter requires that an adjunct is on contract currently to be considered a teaching professor. He is wrong. And resonable people understand that a full or parttime teacher are just that and an adjunct is something else. But no reasonable person thinks that they are not teachers. Until White is formally told that he will not be considered as any longer being employable by GSBT, a reasonable person will continue to consider him a teacher there as an adjunct professor. And White is fully justified in claim to be a teacher there. As I said, Peter is insane. He needs to apologize. But, his reality is so fractured that when he throws a rock he thinks the window he shattered needs to throw his rock back as if the window stole it.

    By the way, there are no private e-mails if you are in possession of them, legally. Unless you have given your word that you will not disclose them, Peter is just a fool to send them if what he wants is anonymity. And why the secrecy, anyway? What is to hide? You know, Peter ought to rewrite his book and drink plenty of wine in the process. It would do him some good.

  8. The funny thing about all this is it is evident to all that his hatred for Reformed theology is blinding his objectivity and sending him in orbit around 10 planets. You saw the meltdown that occurred in the string of posts when I took apart his claims. He has yet to allow my posts back on his echo chamber. I have formally invited him to come on reformedcast.com to back up his idle words. Here is my blog post challenging him:

    http://www.alwaysreforming.org/2011/03/peter-lumpkins-video-proof-of-dr-white.html

    He likes to use technicalities only when it suits him, and is terribly inconsistent. He keeps sending me back to Dr. White to prove a negative. And I forward his email to Dr White to get clarification, and I got it. He has not been banned or cut off from GG. But here is where Peter goes off the deep end. He’ They won’t says mad that I forwarded the email, but at the same time said I should check with Dr White. I did that! So he gets upset that I did what he suggested on his blog. Sheer inconsistency. That is why I invited him on the ReformedCast – to get him at least voice to voice and challenge his assertions. I’m not optimistic that I’ll get him to come on, but it’s worth a try.

  9. A few thoughts on this.

    1. Either Lumpy is completely ignorant of what adjunct faculty are, or else he does know yet is so completely devoid of personal integrity that he won’t spell it out in order to deliberately mislead others. After all, his followers and soul-mates like Dave Armstrong are not the brightest bulbs in the universe.

    Anyway, adjunct faculty are fill-ins or part-time instructors that are becoming more widely used in higher education. They do NOT have regular teaching schedules, but are brought in on an “as needed” basis, if the needs of the institution can be lined up with the schedule of the instructor. Hence, a person may not have actually taught a course somewhere FOR YEARS, and still be considered an “adjunct faculty” there. I remember after spending a couple years in seminary in the 1980s, looking through the school’s most recent catalog, and finding several pages of “Adjunct Faculty”. My reaction was “Who are many of these people?”; because I certainly had not seen them on campus during my time there. Yet that is common at schools all over the country.

    I found an article about “Adjunct Faculty” online. It’s a bit lengthy, but worth the reading if someone is interested in the subject.

    http://mtprof.msun.edu/Win2000/Wickun.html

    2. Scott, I must commend you on your restraint after getting an unsolicited e-mail from Lumpy in which he basically orders you to conduct your affairs according to HIS claims, then refuses to back them up, then has a hissy fit after your pass it along to the party he was attacking when you had every moral and legal right to do so.

    3. About the accreditation issue, each and every state has its own rules and regulations governing higher education in their particular state. Some are much looser, while others are much tighter. Yet, to the best of my knowledge, I do not know of a single state in these United States–even the ones with the most restrictive regulations–that says that the only authentic degrees are the ones from accredited institutions. Therefore, to just say that an unaccredited degree is by nature a bogus degree has absolutely no legal support.

    Finally, of course, I don’t know the exact amount, but Dr. White probably didn’t not make an enormous sum for his teaching at Golden Gate. So if it is in fact true that he won’t be hired there to teach future courses, I’m sure he can write another book, or participate in another debate, or arrange another series of meetings somewhere to occupy his time. The REAL victims are the students at Golden Gates who will be robbed of his world-class scholarship by petty, vindictive ungodly men who hate the Truth of God’s Word and those who teach it.

  10. Tom, Thanks. Peter insisted that he knows the distinctions – after I pointed them out. To lay out what happened which dragged me into this, here is the entire email exchange:

    Mr. Oakland,

    You have listed on your website, the following words:

    “Dr. White received his D.Min in Apologetics at Columbia Evangelical Seminary, teaches Greek, Systematic Theology, and various topics in the field of apologetics at Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary” (link) . As I have fully documented, James White does not teach at Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary. His last teaching contract with that institution was 1/2010. He has no contracts presently, and official seminary personnel has indicated he will be offered no contract in the future.

    As a Southern Baptist who supports Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary through our missions organization of the Southern Baptist Convention, I respectfully ask you to remove from your public documents the false information that James White teaches at one of our six seminaries. It is definitively untrue. Why Dr. White continues to allow himself to be profiled as a professor in Southern Baptist higher education I do not know. Perhaps he could answer such a question. The fact remains, however, it serves the public readership–and in your case, the listeners as well–no honorable benefit for him to be profiled as presently teaching at an institution which definitively cut its ties with him long ago.

    Therefore, I respectfully request you correct the public record.

    Sincerely,
    Peter Lumpkins
    Carrollton, Georgia

    NOTICE: THIS EMAIL (INCLUDING ANY AND ALL ATTACHMENTS) MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. IF YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS EMAIL THE PRESUMPTION OF PRIVACY FOR CONTENTS AND ANY AND ALL ATTACHMENTS EXISTS. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY DISSEMINATION, DISTRIBUTION, COPYING, RETAINING, FORWARDING OR OTHER USE OF THIS COMMUNICATION OR ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY BY EMAIL AND DELETE THIS COMMUNICATION AND ALL COPIES.

    Dear Peter:

    We are in receipt of your email requesting that we remove the reference on the ReformedCast website to Dr. White as currently teaching at GGBTS. As you may know, there are different statuses for seminary professors and teachers. Please see this Wikipedia article, especially its reference to adjunct professors. The point is that not all professors are full-time, and the fact that Dr. White does not teach full-time or even with regularity, does not preclude a statement that Dr. White currently teaches there.

    While it is true that Dr. White’s last assignment was January 2010, there is no indication from GGBTS, their web site, nor from Dr. White himself, that the seminary has “cut off all ties” with him. There is simply no evidence for this. Unless someone from GGBTS can verify your statements, it would be presumptuous for us to remove the.reference.

    Sincerely,

    Scott Oakland
    Host, ReformedCast.com

    Mr. Scott,

    Thank you for your response.

    Of course, I am well aware of the distinctives marking adjunct professors off from either tenured professors or tenure-track professors. The fact remains, James White is not teaching at GGBTS as your public statement says. It is false. Nor would I ask you to do what seems to you to be presumptuous. On the other hand, it seems to me, the burden is now upon you to find out for yourself if James White teaches at GGBTS. I assume you are concerned about your own reputation in making sure the public gets proper, accurate information about those whom you invite to participate in your ministry. In the end, such a decision is yours, of course.

    For your convenience, I include the contact information for Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary

    Northern California Campus
    201 Seminary Drive
    Mill Valley, CA 94941-3197
    Tel: (415) 380-1300 main number

    Sincerely,

    Peter Lumpkins,
    Carrollton, Georgia

    NOTICE: THIS EMAIL (INCLUDING ANY AND ALL ATTACHMENTS) MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. IF YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS EMAIL THE PRESUMPTION OF PRIVACY FOR CONTENTS AND ANY AND ALL ATTACHMENTS EXISTS. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY DISSEMINATION, DISTRIBUTION, COPYING, RETAINING, FORWARDING OR OTHER USE OF THIS COMMUNICATION OR ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY BY EMAIL AND DELETE THIS COMMUNICATION AND ALL COPIES.

  11. Thanks, Scott. I marvel at Lumpy’s sheer arrogance demanding that YOU prove that White is still an adjunct prof at Golden Gate, when HE is the one making all the claims and refuses to provide a shred of evidence which supports his position.

    As for the “Privacy” issue if he doesn’t like it, TOUGH!

  12. What would be interesting–for somebody who has LOTS more time that I do!–would be to go down the list of adjunct faculty at Golden Gate and see how many of them are currently teaching a class there.

  13. Tom,

    A vindictive person is without integrity by definition.

    Scot,

    The Privacy notice is a disclaimer that is prefaced with: CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. This is there because there are laws that do restrict certain information that cannot be disseminated with out approval. However…

    There is no confidential information in the e-mail in question. Everything in it is all already public information, even Lumpy’s name. Especially, since the subject matter is already on his own site in the public domain without any copy right restrictions in place, anyone is free to do whatever they want with it. It amounts to sticky note left on your computer, and has no legally binding restrictions as to use, nor can any be inferred. But, just as Lumpy doesn’t understand verb tense or the context that “teaches” was used in which further restricts the tense and the scope, he doesn’t understand the legal proscriptions on the use of e-mails. Confidential information would encompass critical personal data or client privaleged information, et cetera, and perhaps that which could be used to intimidate, black-mail, or otherwise compromise the integrity of the personal safety or property of the individuals concerned. In this case, none of that inheres. Communications via e-mail, except where prohibited, is generally public informaton. It is typically up to the discretion of the receiver as to what information may be released. Laws typically do not cover the contents of messages, rather, they typically address vital personal data. In some cases disclosures may violate whistle-blower type laws which are somewhat the same as client/privalege laws. Other than that, a private e-mail stops being private once you hit the send button. And in this case, Lumpy’s hatred of JW, makes this, I think, a necessary disclosure. It is not so much JW’s reputation as it is the integrity of the Scripture, and for Lumpy’s sake, he neeeds to be exposed and his supporters convinced that he has lost it. Unfortunately, those who support him appear as nearly crazy and sinful as he is.

  14. Thanks Tom. I realize that Peter is deluding himself on what he terms an email privacy issues, and understand that emails are fair game. He’s upset now because I loaded up his blog queue with comments and now he has to ferret through them. He says I blew my credibility by forwarding his email so now he’s screening mine carefully. Marvelous.

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